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Warhammer Dark Omen Forum

In theory there is the capacity to add 12 new Units, due to room for a possible Dark Omen Addon that sadly never happened.(See dwarf sprite post for details)

However, its much easier to overwrite existing files and then to flip between original and Mod armies (Future Mod Installer or manaully copy and paste). Any sprite can be used as its own 16 colour pallete will be modded with any new sprite, it just depends on selecting a suitable sprite that has same stances or movements but i can easily adapt the new Giant's Frames to work on the Troll or any other sprite.

To learn more check out my other Sprite posts and

http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/Updated_Sprite_Format

We can add as many as we like by overwriting existing ones, adding all races/units and switch via the Mod installer.

Anyone can use any Rule Set they like, since any new Sprites are greatly received and appreciated, however I really don't have the Money to buy all the latest Edition Rule books and as I grew up with Late 80's and 90's Warhammer/Citadel, I personaly have a fondness for the old days.



I purchased them for their inexpensive inspiring Art and insights to the Dark Omen Engine, like the Skeleton Rules etc and also to see all the indentical characters in Shadow of The Horned Rat and Dark Omen. Although mostly classed as 4th/5th (the 3rd Edition Rule books are awaitng delivery from Ebay), the 5th Editions are more 1996-2000, see both editions of the High Elves. We briefly discussed this concerning the Orc boar Chariot that is a new Edition and by Rights should be a 4th Edition Goblin Wolf Chariot (future project) and how Boars can be shot as separate Sprite from chariot(4th) but that in newer rules is 1 unit now. At this stage anything new is great. Ideally we would one day have that many sprites and armies we could decide which rule set to play by and Units/characters to select.

However, I have collected the whole range, since Battle Magic was released 1992 and Arcane Magic 1995 and Magic in 1996 so whatever Ruleset they cover I have all of them, to see how they changed over time, same for the Elves/Skaven. Each book naturally advertises other Books of it Publishing Era, remember some get re-released and its all down to availability of Ebay but here's my Book Dates.


1st Edition
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Collection of 3 Books 1983
Warhammer Tabletop Battles
Warhammer Magic
Warahmmer Characters
Warhammer Forces and Fantasy Expansion 1984
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2nd Edition
WarHammer Fantasy Battle Rules 1984
Warhammer Bestiary 1984
WArhammer Magic 1984
Warhammer Combat 1984
Warhammer Forces and Fantasy Expansion 1984
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3rd Edition
Warhammer Fantasy Battle Book 1987
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Warhammer Armies 1988


Warhammer Siege Hardback Book 1988

Warhammer Realm of Chaos - Slaves to Darkness 1988 and The Lost and the Damned 1990



4th Edition
Warhammer Rule Book 1992

The Battle Bestiary  1992

Battle Magic         1992


The Empire          1993

Orcs and Goblins  1993

High Elves           1993

Dwarfs               1993

Skaven              1993

Undead               1994

Chaos Dwarf         1994

Dark Elves           1995

Arcane Magic       1995


5th Edition
Warhammer Rule Book  1996

Battle Book          1996

Wood Elves          1996

Chaos                 1996

Skaven               1996

Bretonnians         1996

Lizardmen            1997

High Elves           1997

Warhammer Magic 1997

Dogs of War          1998

Vampire Counts      1999


6th Edition
Orcs and Goblins etc   2000 -

"The fifth edition, released in 1996,(wiki) re-introduced the Bretonnian forces, which had been left out
of the 4th edition, and re-worked the slann heavily to create the Lizardmen armies".


I have also compared Shadow of the Horned Rat Stats and they are also 4th Edition (1992) Stats. I closely examined common Units to Dark Omen and SOTHR, such as Wood Elf Archers, Empire Greatswords, Treeman, Orc Boyz and Orc Biguns and they also share 4th Edition identical Stats. Now that I own both 4th Edition (1993) and 5th Edition (1996) Skaven Books, thier Stats don't alter from 4th to 5th editions either. Which is why they are grouped as 4th/5th as they share same stats but introduce new Magic (Magic Boxset 1996 5th Edition) and introduce new stuff, as well as Army Books for Lizardmen, Brettonians, Dogs of War and even Vampire Counts (1999),the last 5th Edition Book. If we ever want to add these ourselves, then the Books provide the perfect Stats lists for us.

1st
Collection of 3 Books 1983
Warhammer Tabletop Battles
Warhammer Magic
Warahmmer Characters  
Warhammer Forces and Fantasy Expansion 1984

2nd
WarHammer Fantasy Battle Rules 1984
Warhammer Combat 1984
Warhammer Bestiary 1984
Warhammer Magic 1984
 
3rd
Warhammer Fantasy Battle Book 1987
Warhammer Armies 1988
Warhammer Siege Hardback Book 1988
Warhammer Realm of Chaos - Slaves to Darkness 1988 and The Lost and the Damned 1990

4th
Warhammer Rule Book 1992
The Battle Bestiary  1992
Battle Magic         1992
The Empire          1993
Orcs and Goblins  1993
High Elves           1993
Dwarfs               1993
Skaven              1993
Undead               1994
Chaos Dwarf         1994
Dark Elves           1995
Arcane Magic       1995

5th
Warhammer Rule Book  1996
Battle Book          1996
Wood Elves          1996
Chaos                 1996
Skaven               1996
Bretonnians         1996
Lizardmen            1997
High Elves           1997
Warhammer Magic 1997
Dogs of War          1998
Vampire Counts      1999

6th
Orcs and Goblins    2000 etc..



White Dwarf
http://www.gamehobby.net/white_dwarf_magazine/white_dwarf_192.html

The SOTHR Giant Description is my Old Favourite Giant,



Standing 4 times the height of a human, although the Shadow of The Horned Rat
in-game Sprite looks quite Different.



Keep them Away from Bugman's Brewery! SOTHR Mission 14

and since he is my Favourite Giant Sprite I will create him for Dark Omen.

Early Test Beta - Sprite Increase original Sprite Sheet by 200% to fit Giant onto Original Sprite.





and then I may eventually create the more Modern Giant who fights, primarily for the Greenskins.

I will base the Giant's Sprite Movements on the Treeman

Ive purchased 2 of all them except rarest,

that will be sent onto you for Future Projects,

as soon as they all arrive, since they cost little.

More Ebays -> Completed the Collection now ->



Warhammer Fantasy RolePlay 1986  (360 pages)



I will Catalogue them all soon,

Books - Games Workshop Army Books
 
Bretonnian Army Book (1996)
Chaos Army Book (1994)
Chaos Dwarf Army Book (1994)
Dark Elf Army Book (1995)
Dogs of War Army Book (1998)
Dwarf Army Book (1993)
Empire Army Book (1992)
Lizardman Army Book (1996)
High Elf Army Book (1993)
High Elf Army Book (1997)
Orc and Goblin Army Book (1993)
Skaven Army Book (1993)
Undead Army Book (1994)
Wood Elf Army Book (1996)

Please do, so we can all see the differences between Pc and Playstaion.

as Oldskool once reminded us of.

http://forum.dark-omen.org/tactical-wargaming-and-other-warhammer-games/shadow-of-the-horned-rat-t234.15.html

Welcome!


Great Time To Join, New Mods ,Maps , Units, Campaigns

and Monthly Tournaments.

gwam69!

If he's not already in The Dark Omen Community

then he should be, for these Fantastic Walkthrough

Movies of Shadow of the Horned Rat and Dark Omen

(Playstation).




Congratulations for Completing both games and now

that you are fully Trained up, you can Join us Online,

for some Great Multiplayer Action and Tournaments etc.


http://www.youtube.com/user/gwam69

I have of Course Invited him to Join our ever Expanding Community.

Very Cool,

and nice Druchi Army List:

Druchii Infantry
Druchii Sorceress
Druchii Reaper
Druchii Crossbowmen
Cold One Knights
Druchii Assasin

This will be Great!

Thanks

There are some Duplicate ones that

I can send onto you, if you like -Mikademus

Since I now have 2 indentical books of Orcs and Goblins and others etc

Very Cool!

Much Appreciated,

Warhammer Table Top Rulebooks which Dark Omen is based on (mainly 4th Edition) and uses the same Troop stats etc.

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1st
Collection of 3 Books 1983
Warhammer Tabletop Battles
Warhammer Magic
Warhammer Characters
Warhammer Forces and Fantasy Expansion 1984

2nd
Warhammer Fantasy Battle Rules 1984
Warhammer Combat 1984
Warhammer Bestiary 1984
Warhammer Magic 1984
 
3rd
Warhammer Fantasy Battle Book 1987
Warhammer Armies 1988
Warhammer Siege Hardback Book 1988
Warhammer Realm of Chaos - Slaves to Darkness 1988 and The Lost and the Damned 1990

4th
Warhammer Rule Book 1992
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ralhriji5pcwe7o/Warhammer%204th%20Edition%20Rulebook%201992.pdf
The Battle Bestiary  1992
Battle Magic           1992
The Empire            1993
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9mlej47tt7t5da/Warhammer%20Armies%204th%20Edition%20The%20Empire.pdf
Orcs and Goblins    1993
https://www.dropbox.com/s/51u19977h26zezn/Warhammer%20Armies%20Orcs%20%26%20Goblins%201993.pdf
High Elves             1993
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q58vuza32s4b94u/Warhammer%20Armies%204th%20Edition%20High%20Elves.pdf
Dwarfs                  1993
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6idl7ujjdl2e0tv/Warhammer%20Armies%20Dwarfs%201996.pdf
Skaven                  1993
https://www.dropbox.com/s/swlwguemzen9m6h/Warhammer%20Armies%20Skaven%201996.pdf
Undead                 1994
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgykmqgx6ttej9n/Warhammer%20Armies%20Undead%201994.pdf
Chaos Dwarf         1994
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kp1onz1le8y035u/Warhammer%20Armies%204th%20Edition%20Chaos%20Dwarf%201994.pdf
Dark Elves            1995
https://www.dropbox.com/s/03yrrp534l0glyr/Warhammer%20Armies%20Dark%20Elves%201996.pdf
Arcane Magic       1995

5th
Warhammer Rule Book  1996
Battle Book          1996
Wood Elves          1996
Chaos                 1996
Skaven               1996
Bretonnians         1996
Circle of Blood campaign
https://www.dropbox.com/s/17918ce5b7ji4n5/Circle%20of%20Blood%20Campaign.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tx8h5cl8ev8vlww/Circle%20of%20Blood%20buildings.pdf?dl=0
Lizardmen            1997
High Elves           1997
Warhammer Magic 1997
Dogs of War          1998
Vampire Counts      1999

6th
Orcs and Goblins    2000 etc..

Adding the Finer Details to these early concept Sprites.....




(*Update*)



lots more details to be added, to hopefully look as good as these ones,

Inspired by our new friends at-

http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11505


I have also added Attack Animations to the Boars, so they gouge with their Tusks.

Assuming the original Skelton Horse, used for the Undead Chariot also Attacks when

in Melee', as it has its own stats but as far as I could tell, I couldn't see any Attack

Animations- Uncomfirmed, so will Test but the Boars can now be seen Attacking. Although

I remember Villetrenthmeth modding Nagesh's Horse to Bite my Head in Combat, unless it always has done?


Adding the Second Orc to the Chariot, means the Stats may have to be Altered to Compensate the Extra Hit

(we Don't like to alter stats but eventually with possible/future new armies and Units they will have to be)

and I'm fully aware that "may" cause even more unstability to the already "unstable" Charriot but only tests will

prove more and its been years since I last investigated the Charriot, particulary in Multiplayer, as Single Player is Fine.

Orc Boar Charriot -Beta

















All Boar   




All Orc Charriot











Now I can start to add in the finer details

(and Record a Video)

Very Good Indeed,

Using Rob's Rdose Sprite Editor and Gimp can

provide some powerfull Repaint results in a short Time.