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[Ghabry]

Used Darkmancers spreadsheet with a few changes to update the economics table:
Conquest Economics Table

Few Changes:
Road and Land of the Capitol are counted.
So you will have one road and land more then on the spreadsheet (Capitol gives 350gc + 100gc + 50gc).

[alavet]

i suggest you guys create .xls document at google docs or somewhere.

it will be way WAY more effective and allow you to monitor previous rounds if there was any mistake

[Ghabry]

If I buy a new regiment where is it spawned? On the capitol or on the Farmland? If on capitol: What if there is already a unit on it?

The money at the current turn is btw always the Gold amount in the last row of the "Money Start" column (Would be Turn 4 in the current case)

[Flak]

by new regiment you mean new army?

a new army is spawned at the capitol or a city which is not occupied by an army already, the player will pick the city, if the player forgets the GM will place it.

to add a new regiments to an army you need to be on a road connected to a city or capitol and wait one turn, its called "Re-Fit"

[Flak]

hey guys

my life has taken a few unexpected turns this week so i wont be online much if at all during day time, only evenings

you see i got fired on tuesday, with no warning

so i then expected it would be awhile before i found a new job

but then friday a former neighbour of my family farm rang and offered 2 weeks of work for me, but it is rather long days, so thats why i am for a while only online late

[alavet]

how these motherfuckers coudl fire a man without 2 week notification in advane?
even at crazy Russia they can't do that....

[Ghabry]

Talked with wkur about pillage in the chat and we think that the pillage income should be decreased a lot to 50% of how much the land is worth.

e.g. if there is Road+City the Pillage money would be: (200gc+1000gc)/2 and a capitol gives maybe 1000gc.

Btw what happens if I capture a capitol, is it destroyed then?

[Darkmancer]

A whole 1000gc? wow 

[Darkmancer]

Hey Flak are upgrade items or racial items included with neutral items when figuring out how many regiments you can field?

Or is it just neutal items?

[Ghabry]

The Ogre Kingdom unit Hunter with wolves has an unknown Attribute/Psychology set (The one between Undestructable and Suffer additional wounds/skeleton flag).
Please tell me what it does .

[Flak]

Darkmancer: its 5 items of any category except potion, enchanted shield and woe
Grungebringer sword is an upgrade item but it also counts in the max 5

Ghabry: Hunter with wolves is one of just a few regiments that has kept its bloodlust ability

[Flak]

Has anyone heard from Olly
maybe he has connection trouble

i have sent a PM and hope he will be back asap

[Flak]

Hey gang

we have a problem, not too big a problem i hope

Darkmancer has left

I hope one of his allies will take over his land, the more obvious choice would be Nitrox or Wkurwiony as their lands are in most peril but Olly i hope if they refuse you will consider it

The Current turn is locked until we can find a solution, hopefully not long 

The other alternative is to remove all his lands but it kinda leaves a funny map

Or maybe somebody new wants to join, i will PM Warhammerfreak and Jeronimo tonight

[alavet]

i didnt understood Darkmancer posts. need to know context to understand fully.

as myself i dont see too much wrong if people try test battle with enemy armies (even though it "feels" dirty). But as so many factions i believe balance is almost impossible to handle for all factions & maps.

so it could be that ogres crush goblins but totally suck to vampires, etc..
or perhaps some faction could suck to all for example. + its hard to balane gold counts, etc.


at previous conquest i actually tried about 5 battles total of emulating enemy armies of elves with diffirient forces of myself. it helps, but doesnth elps too  huge, cause as experienced player you possibly already udnerstand most valuable army combinations anyway.

i would feel very sad if Flak or Gharby used ruleset holes in balance to win this game though. all balance issues should be checked very carefully but corrected asap

[Flak]

with so many nations to balance them all is not really possible if not thru playn the game, several updates have been made and will continue to be made to balance the units, but many factors make an impact in battles not just the balancing as we all know.
Me and alavet had a long series of battles in 2nd conquest and my 10 battle undefeated elf army was defeated by a well planned muti battle by 2 vampire armies.

I have encouraged everyone with imba or any problems to explain them so they can be handled
esp Chaos has needed heavy balancing and still needs some
worst balanced is i think the Vampire counts but they are not used.

I wasnt of the belief that anyone had a problem with me playing as player and GM so i hope thats not the case, i am not using holes in the ruleset i stop holes. But planning ahead 2-3 even 5 turns is more important in this than the previous conquest games and i did make the ruleset so it makes sense i know it well, so my planning maybe more complete.
Even so i have to check the rules to make sure and Olly has already corrected me in my own rules.

let me say again any problems dont hesitate to post them