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« on: July 18, 2009, 06:55:01 PM »

Hello Gang, this is the 1st draft of the July Tournament ruleset for 9000/30

Ive based this system on the popular 5k/15, expected to work in much the same way.
Mika's system is a good idea but it is very limited in the *2 and *3 level, which limits the different costs, 5k/15 had a very specific pts cost system and it worked very well.
The tournament will run the same way as the 5k/15 did.

Up to 3 of the same is allowed however cost will increase, levels 1-4 will be available, each level over 1 will have an additional cost to the basic 3 level 1 units cost, armor is also allowed but cost only gold.
So the first level 2 cannon will cost 3 pts and the 2nd level 2 will cost 4 pts.
A level 3 Bright Mage will cost 6 pts
When you buy 3 units, then you may only buy 3 regardless of how many different levels, and the higher level units counts as the first.
If you buy 3 skeleton horsemen, 1 lvl 2, 1 lvl 4 and 1 lvl 1. Then it will cost like this: 6/3/2 because the lvl 4 being highest level goes first (3+3), lvl 2 cost 3 (2+1) and lvl 1 cost 2.
and so on and so forth Smiley


Humans
Mercenary Crossbowmen                    2/3/3  (level 2) +1
Imperial Cannon                                2/3/3  (level 2) +1
Bright Mage                                     2/3/4  (level 2) +2 (level 3) +4
Imperial Halbardiers                           1/2/2  (level 2) +1
Imperial Bowmen                               2/3/3  (level 2) +1
Flagellants                                       3/3/3  (level 3) +3
Imperial Mortar                                 4/4/5  (level 2) +2
Ogres                                             2/2/3
Mercenary Swordmen                         1/2/2 (level 3) +2
Imperial Greatswords                          1/2/2 (level 4) +3
Ice Mage                                         2/3/4 (level 2) +2 (level) 3 +4
Mercenary Cavalry                             3/2/3 (level 3) +3
Pistoliers                                          3/4/5 (level 2) +2
Knights of the Realm                          3/2/3 (level 2) +2
Dwarf Warriors                                  2/2/2 (level 2) +1
Wood Elf Glade Guards                       2/3/3 (level 4) +4
Wood Elf Archers                               5/5/5 (level 2) +3
Treeman                                          5/4/4


Greenskins
Night Goblins Archer                           1/1/1 (level 2) +1 (2nd level 2 +0)
Night Goblins                                    1/1/0 (level 2) +1 (2nd level 2 +0) (level 4) +2
Giant Spider                                      1/2/2
Giant Scorpion                                  1/2/2
Night Goblin Shaman                          1/2/2 (level 2) +1 (level 3) +2
Orc Arrer Boyz                                  2/2/3 (level 2) +1
Orc Boar Boyz                                   2/2/3 (level 2) +1 (level 3) +2 (level 4) +3
Orc Boyz                                          1/1/2 (level 2) +1 (level 4) +3
Orc Big'uns                                       2/3/3 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +3
Orc Bolt Thrower                               1/1/0 (level 2) +1
Orc Rock Lobber                                4/4/5 (level 2) +2
Orc Shaman                                     2/2/3 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +3
Troll                                                2/2/3
Night Goblin Archers with Fanatics        2/1/2 level 2 +1 (2nd level 2) +0
Night Goblins with Fanatics                 1/2/1 level 2 +1 (2nd level 2) +0 (level 4) +2


Undead
Vampire                                           4/5/6 (level 2) +3 (level 3) +5
Ghouls                                             1/1/2 (level 2) +1 (level 4) +3
Mummies                                          7/5/5 (level 2) +3 (level 3) +4
Necromancer                                    2/2/3 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +4
Screaming Scull Catapult                    3/3/4 (level 2) +1
Skeleton Archer                                 2/2/2 (level 2) +1
Skeleton Horsemen                             3/2/2 (level 2) +1 (level 4) +3
Skeleton Warriors                               2/1/2 (level 2) +1 (level 4) +3
Black Grail Knights                              10/15 (level 2) +3 (level 3) +6
Wights                                             2/3/4 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +3
Wraiths                                            5/6/7 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +3
Zombies                                           1/0/1 (level 2) +1 (3rd level 2) +0 (level 4) +3

Items
Horn of Urgok 15
Banner of Wrath 5
Staff of Osiris 3
Sword Skabskrath 2
others 1

Strength Potion, Enchanted Shield, Dragon Helm, Heart of Woe: 2 items cost 1 pts


One major difference in 9000/30 with levels that help to balance the game is the high cost of higher level units
like level 4 boar boyz cost over 7680 gc, many high level troops will ever only be possible to use once due to the gold cost. something that will help to keep a place in the game for the "small" units like goblins, swordsmen and zombies who otherwise could easily lose their usefulness in the game and that would be a shame, as it adds to the flavor to have as many diverse army builds as possible.

Go try it out Grin
and any comment is welcome
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 09:42:17 PM »

Really nice work, thank you. Let's hope, that it will proof its value in the tournament.

Perhaps you could add the Ruleset to the Wiki?
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 10:07:44 PM »

i would but i have no clue about html stuff Embarrassed
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 10:23:32 PM »

No need for HTML

Take the code from the 5000/15 ruleset and create your own page there.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 03:26:09 PM »

Nice work and greatly appreciate the effort,

should make for some good Battles.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 03:32:54 PM »

Looks great. I'm gonna try a few lists... Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 04:44:36 PM »

Since this ruleset does not use the core/rare/unique rules, perhaps it should be named something else, or my original 9000/30 rules should be renamed (Like to 9000/CORE30, if this set is considered the "plain" 9000/30)?

In either case, I do hope that you update my original old rule set suggestion with the unit point costs you reach!
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 01:25:47 AM »

Cool Good, i haven't test the points yet so i don't make any observation about it, the only thing that make me some noise was: "popular 5k/15"  Huh? ? I was talking with Bembe a week ago i think, about making another 5000 tourny on the future to test the latest changes and see if we could make it stable, but now i wonder if that was acomplished already  Tongue

About the name of the ruleset i think that the one that you sketched Mika could change to be finished in a future because explore another way of armys creation. I suggest TTS 9000 (for Table Top Style), but just an idea.

Last but not least; the idea is the same as with all the gold/points sets? one army of each race that cannot be changed on the course of the event?  Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2009, 10:54:37 AM »

Since this ruleset does not use the core/rare/unique rules, perhaps it should be named something else, or my original 9000/30 rules should be renamed (Like to 9000/CORE30, if this set is considered the "plain" 9000/30)?

In either case, I do hope that you update my original old rule set suggestion with the unit point costs you reach!


Ok I played a little bit arround with the rules and moved them. Dark Omen Rules. Now Flak can add his ruleset here: 9000/30.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2009, 04:30:26 PM »

Wights                                             2/3/4 (level 2) +2 (level 3) +3

Wights are level 3 or 4, not 2. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2009, 09:41:00 PM »

Since this ruleset does not use the core/rare/unique rules, perhaps it should be named something else, or my original 9000/30 rules should be renamed (Like to 9000/CORE30, if this set is considered the "plain" 9000/30)?

In either case, I do hope that you update my original old rule set suggestion with the unit point costs you reach!


Ok I played a little bit arround with the rules and moved them. Dark Omen Rules. Now Flak can add his ruleset here: 9000/30.


The data in the new 9000/30 article is in serious need of tabulation love and some caring descriptions.
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