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[alavet]

why bembe cant keep moderator titule

[olly]

Our combined Eternal Thanks to Bembelimen!

Ive returned from Holiday and found he has successfully transferred everything. The journey continues and we've all certainly progressed Dark Omen further than ever before, so great thanks to you all.

My own journey began after being left so disappointed by Mark of Chaos in 2007, I found my old Dark Omen Cd and Mods and started to search the Internet for any signs of Life. Sadly there hadn't been for much action from many of the old Dark Omen websites for quite awhile but I did find Bembelimen and Ghabry's recent German Dark Omen website (http://darkomen.benjamintrenkle.de). They had met by chance and found they shared a passion for Dark Omen, so I posted on their site,in very rough German (google Translator) that I also loved Dark Omen and had my original Mods to share, which we found were partial files from the original DOC111 Mod pack from the Legends- Mikademus and Smurf that had been lost for many years. Crucially I had a working Wh2Edit Dark Omen troop Stats Editor, made by Mikademus and the various alternate campaigns and Multiplayer files.

So after tracking down and contacting the Admins of every existing Dark Omen fansite:

Bembelimen and Ghabry's http://darkomen.benjamintrenkle.de

Darkmancer's http://darkomenmulti.proboards50.com

Byru's http://darkomen.blitz-art.com

LazyDog http://members.tripod.com/~Sturmlord/index.html

and all other sites and Fans
 
http://www.ovotech.com/Forums/threads.cgi?Ghabry=DarkOmen=General=Dark_omen_Fansite

http://undeaddude.tripod.com/kill.html

http://darkomenworld.freeforums.org

I decided to unite them all together to Celebrate the Games pending 10th Anniversary. Since throughout my searches for signs of Dark Omen life on the Internet, I met an original Dark Omen Artist, Simon Tresdern (whoose brother also worked on Dark Omen and then went onto work on the Total War series-Shogun/Rome etc). He kindly put me in touch with all other original Mindscape/EA Dark Omen Producers/Developers, so I could send them all our thanks for 10 years Great Gameplay and politely request any Dark Omen resources and to Celebrate the 10th Anniversary with us fans.

Around the same time, I also discovered a never seen before Dark Omen Map viewer, made by Andrew Buchanan -an original Mindscape/EA Dark Omen programmer. It also contained his source code and could display the maps in High Resolution.

http://home.clara.net/obi/FrameBase.html

So I knew my next mission was to track down Mikademus and Smurf, the original Dark Omen Modders and creators of the DOC111 mod, as they would be the most experienced Fans to make use of my newly discovered Dark Omen Map Viewer and Source Code- in view of enhancing it into a possible Map Editor. Also incase I received any tools or original resources from the Mindscape/EA Producers/Programmers. Mikademus was fairly easy to find as he is famous for inventing RTT (Real Time Tactics) to best describe Dark Omen type games that are different to the more commom RTS games. However, Smurf aka Andy Igoe was harder to find as after contacting Banshee Studios where he worked, I was told he had left many years ago with no forwarding address. However, after describing that I was intending to unite all fans and sites together, in celebration of the game's 10th Anniversary and my proposed letter of thanks to all the original Mindscape/EA Developers but more the fact that Mikademus had now rejoined us and was examining the Source code of the undiscovered Dark Omen Map Viewer, the person at Banshee Studios, Rebecca then admitted that she was indeed Smurf and had used the name Andy Igoe! May I also thank Rob who also joined us and is one of the few people around who can converse with Mikademus on very complex Modding issues and has produced many great tools for us all to use and along with Mikademus and Ghabry allows us to extend Dark Omen Further than Ever before! Most of all they have shown great patience and have taught me a great deal, I consider myself very fortunate to have been their Beta Tester on so many of their fantastic creations.

I then sent out thanks to all original Dark Omen Mindscape/EA Developers-

Hi there,
 
On behalf of all Global Dark Omen Fan sites,
we would like to thank you, for your part, in creating a truly amazing game.
Nearly 10 years on and we are still playing On-line Multiplayer Dark Omen.
May I also take this opportunity to politely request any Dark Omen resources, such as a Multiplayer Map Editor, to celebrate the game's 10th anniversary, early next year.
This would enable us to play into infinity.
Any help or advice would also be gratefully received but again we would really like to show our appreciation for years fun and innovative strategy.
Thank You
and
Merry Christmas!



To my amazement I received various replies of thanks from them and most graciously from Jeff Gamon a Dark Omen Producer, who kindly took the time and replied -

Hi Oliver,
It’s good to hear from you – There seems to be a bit of a movement out there to get in touch with the old Dark Omen dev team. I understand that Richard Leinfellner and John McCormack have been approached via facebook. Once I heard this I got curious and went looking for Dark Omen on the web; it’s quite incredible the interest that’s out there even after ten years – we’re all very flattered.
Eerily, the old Mindscape gang got together last night and so these approaches gave us even more to reminisce about and discuss ways we may be able to help the community out.
As some of the forums correctly speculate, the game is the property of EA and so the release of tools etc may be a bit of a lofty goal. I will look into it though. Failing that, all we might be able to do is help out with the odd insight into how the engine worked so that the community might be able to advance its existing tools a little.
As for a campaign to sequel dark omen, who knows, maybe your best bet is to pressure GW; maybe suggest they offer the old Mindscape team riches, estates and peerages, etc. 8¬)
Leave it with me, I’ll at least check into the status of the source archives at EA and take it from there in the new year. Until then, have a Very Happy Christmas.
 
All the best,
Jeff Gamon.
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Unfortunately Jeff was unable to get the Source code released as it turns out EA don't own it and not sure who owns Mindscape property but luckily, thanks to such a Fantastic Mod team we have achieved a great deal and after helping Bembelimen and Ghabry translate their old German Site http://darkomen.benjamintrenkle.de into English, a new website and Home was created for all Global Dark Omen fans and Modders http://www.dark-omen.org to combine all of our efforts and has made it a Great Time to Join our friendly community- Monthly Tournaments and New Mods.

1) All original 28 Maps into Multiplayer
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/2.-modifications/1.-maps/map-patch.html

2) New Single player and Online Campaigns
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/2.-modifications/4.-campaigns/1.-singleplayer/index.html
http://forum.dark-omen.org/campaigns-b36.0/

3) Deploy upto 39 units in total 19v19 or 25v14 combinations etc..
http://forum.dark-omen.org/troops/fighting-with-25-regiments-t463.0.html

4) New Units and Armies
http://forum.dark-omen.org/dark-omen-expanded-b50.0

5) Unit/Sprite Editors
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/3.-sprite-editors/rdose.html

6) Unit/Stats Editors
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/2.-army-editors/wh32edit.html

7) Audio Convertors
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/4.-miscellaneous-tools/sad/mad-audio-converter.html

8 ) Blender 3D model Convertors for maps and Scenary
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/1.-map-editor/darkomen-m3d-to-blender-converter.html

9) Map Text and BTB Editors -to allow future new custom maps
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/1.-map-editor/btb-editor.html
http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/view-details/1.-modding-tools/1.-map-editor/dark-omen-projects-source-archive.html

10)XP/Vista/Win7,8 & 10 Game and Multiplayer Online Fixes and even Full 3d Mode
http://forum.dark-omen.org/help-section-b7.0/

Also including Mikademus' own Amazing RTT Game Engine Project- WARTBED
http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/Wartbed:Bright_Portents

and Darkmancer's Necrominicon Game Engine Project
http://forum.dark-omen.org/news/necrominicon-t648.0.html;msg6210#new

Exciting Times indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkW5TKsYKw
	DQ | by Aeva

Dark Omen Multiplayer - vs. Chinnico - Road to Bogenhafen




Again Great thanks to especially-

Bembelimen, Ghabry, Mikademus and Rob - Developers
Flak - Super Moderator (Campaign Creator and Tournament Organiser)
Darkmancer - promoted to Administrator but also a Developer
Grend,Mormacili and Brapus/Itlerion - 2D Sprite Artists
Malus,Sipax,CidHalsey and Flak - Campaign Creators
Along with all of our members and fans that play but also contribute to new Rulesets and Balances,such as Jeronimo/Brapus,Wkurwiony,Alavet and many other veteran(WHF,Nitrox,DJ etc) and all new members.


So as the Dark Omen Global Spokesperson and now Administrator, my Future plans are currently to use my converted empty Tutorial Map to create semi new Flat Maps by strategically placing existing Dark Omen 3d Scenary objects but I have also Hired some professional 3d Artists to create new Trees, buildings, Fortress/Castles, WatchTowers for each race's landscape, until we are able to either create a Height Map Generator to produce Hills or a M3X file generator to allow the Camera to roam into new Terrain and create much larger flat Tutorial maps.


I have created a new Modification SubSection called 3D Scenery Models that will showcase and list possible new models for my Artists to produce. Intially i want to recreate Shadow of the Horned Rat first level to showcase and combine of all of mod tools togther. I am also in discussion with the Medieval 2 Total War Call of Warhammer Mod team and we may combine our mods, so that I donate them my 3d Scenary models for their 3d Character Models that maybe used to produce many new Sprites from and possibly add to the amazing Dark Omen Expanded existing Mod.

Our Journey continues in Great Style!



 **Update* Our first Mod Map -New Fortres Siege Map
http://forum.dark-omen.org/3d-scenery-models/new-beta-fotress-siege-map-t1001.0.html;msg10426#msg10426

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU5h672hkZ8
	DQ | by Aeva

]Dark Omen Bridge&Tower

[CidHalsey]

Three cheers for all of us!

Looking back on what the community has achived for nought but buttons and thanks in the last few years, I think it's truely incredible.

Now I'm all divorced and resettled, I'm back to my normal free timed self, so expect me to return to my frozen projects and start seeing what new goodies I can create.

(While writing my own novel, sadly not dark omen related.)

Let's see what we can do next, shall we?

Thanks to everyone. Without each one of us, we wouldn't be where we are today.

[Mikademus]

Bumping this thread (which is really unnecessary since it is stickied) to show it the love it deserves.

Bem has been doing a fantastic job on this site, and I have had many good and creative discussions with him that has helped develop it, so a big thanks to him, and I hope to see him return here when other phases of his life leaves space for it!

Olly, as usual you write impressive and interesting walls of text, and the timeline of contacts you chronicled above was fascinating reading! Many thanks for your patience as well!

As DjLeBombe stated, this is a great community with much love and tolerance, that requires very little maintenance and moderation. Add to that the love of this great game and we truly have a place to be proud to be a member of and belong to!

Also, thanks to everyone here for their patience and continual enthusiasm! The projects we do here are of the kind that takes much time and are exhaustive enough to require breaks now and then, but people are understanding and supportive. This is truly a good place to be!

[Hokum]

Hello,

I am an old Fan of DO, recently reinstalled it (after quitting PC games for years) and just found your website.

All I wanted to say, to Olly and everyone else who contributed, is that I am so grateful that all of you are here and that you all love this game as I do. I nearly shed a tear when reading that you contacted the developers for the anniversary, I wish I could say them thanks too.


cheers and thank you.

[AnmanIndustries]

Everything Olly has said on this page.

Wow.

I remember, some 5 years ago, hanging out in some dark omen place of non specific description. It is nice to know this place was born like that.

[olly]

Thanks to all and Happy New Year!

This year will see the completion of our first Mod Map
Beta Fortress Siege

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKvP_8CfwLE

as I'm back onto recreating some of the Shadow of the Horned Rat Houses, to finish off the village outside of the Castle Walls.




with our shared eventual goal of altering the Campaign Decision Flow and CTL files

http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/DO/WHMTG

http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/DO/CTL

to allow all those glorious Dark Omen Expanded Races to battle on thier own new Campaign Maps.

[Jim]

Olly, this new Map is just awesome

[olly]

Thnx, that's what keeps us going - Fan Power!

I will be documenting all of our combined knowledge of Height Maps as Ghabry and Darkmancer have offered to investigate a possible Height Map Generator, that will allow many more new Maps to be produced in a shorter time.

This year is going to be so great!

[lordbraprus]

NICE olly, NICE.

(L)

[olly]

****UPDATE****

There's been some massive advancements over the last year or so and we finally have the necessary mod tools to create complete remake projects.

Big thanks to developer Aqrit who fixed Dark Omen to run in full 3d mode on Windows7/8 with NVidia graphics cards

http://forum.dark-omen.org/help-section/3d-mode-and-win87-dark-omen-t1164.0.html

and created a Height map tool so new terrain mod maps can now be made

http://forum.dark-omen.org/maps/heightmaps-t1222.0.html

and fixed the overhead map (space bar) in single player to show new mod maps and camera extreme zoom out!

http://forum.dark-omen.org/3d-scenery-models/dark-omen-extreme-camera-zoom-out-t1172.0.html

and created a Shadow of the Horned Rat sprite/banner/portraits image extractor, to allow them to be reused in new Dark Omen campaigns

http://forum.dark-omen.org/2d-sprites/sothr-sprites-t1096.0.html

and modded Dark Omen to allow mixed magic

http://forum.dark-omen.org/tools/mixed-magic-t1217.0.html;msg12453#msg12453

and his compiler for WHTMG so we can create new talking/meeting cutscenes between battles

http://forum.dark-omen.org/campaigns/cutscene-modding-t1205.0.html;msg12348#msg12348

and of course his mod to add more sprites, banners without overwriting originals

http://forum.dark-omen.org/2d-sprites/adding-more-sprites-to-dark-omen-t1214.0.html

which combined nicely into Ghabry's fantastic Mod Selector which has made switching Mods and alternate campaigns so easy

http://forum.dark-omen.org/tools/mod-selector-t1118.0.html


If that wasn't enough developer Crash has been combining and creating many new tools into a new Dark Omen Battle Editor that one will revolutionize the way we mod and may even evolve into a whole new game engine remake!

http://forum.dark-omen.org/tools/general-modding-questions-t1210.0.html;msg12526#msg12526



and demonstrated much easier ways of producing new sprites from the Call of Warhammer 3d models that we have permission to reuse

http://forum.dark-omen.org/2d-sprites/programs-to-make-sprites-t1199.0.html


So having moved jobs, got engaged, purchased a house I am now settled and have been using all the great new tools by combining them into a super uber mod. I will be writing new how to guides that will use my new mod as a starting point for others to reuse, as it has all the latest modifications and is easy for fans to extend by adding all the other Warhammer races onto new maps and campaigns. I have been using the excellent Dark Omen Expanded sprites and complimenting it with a new sprites using the Call of Warhammer 3d models and the Shadow of the Horned Rat ones. Currently it has Skaven and Dark Elves that I'm just finishing and will then throw in a some new 3d maps for us to battle on! The idea is for other fans to easily follow the new guides and help add all the other Warhammer races, to complete Dark Omen. With the Christmas holidays coming up I'm hoping for a final push to victory!   

Again Big Thanks to you all and the especially our wonderful Modders!




http://youtu.be/Ieo0bXskwq4

[lordbraprus]

WOW those are MASSIVE advances!

Adding more sprites without overwritting originals, is "unlimited" ?¿? can be added like 8 sprites for each race in warhammer , and then organizing them in the army book (i guees they have to be added to human, orc or undead  army books) ?¿

However there is a banner limit right?

Anyway, waiting to have a new engine, mixed with all the tools already developed, to make 3d models with zbrush, paint them and pose them to make sprites without worring about anything, however i guess that if me or anyone make sprites, they could be imported to this "new engine" coming?

being able to mix magic is so great, that will work for the new races ♥

[olly]

Extra Sprite Slots and Banner Slots -> Work in progress Dark Elves (DOE sprites) v Skaven (SOTHR sprites and new Screaming Bell)


Dark Omen Multiplayer - Dark Elves vs. Skaven - Fotress Map

 

[alavet]

looking great! thanks for the newsletter olly.

will definitely back that other project

[olly]

Many Thanks Alavet, hope you are doing well. We've got Cuthalion making a new campaign with the new Sprites and maps that Illidan and me are making, so expect to see you on the battlefield soon!