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Hi guys, just curious which units you all choose for the campaign.

Mine are:
-Grudgebringer cavalry
-Grudgebringer cannon
-Imperial mortar
-Bright mage
-Grudgebringer crossbow (replace them later by elven bowman)
-Ragnars wolves
-Flaggelants
-Ogres
-Dwarves
-last spot is a bit of everything like Grail knights, steam tank and so on

I have no favorite unit (ok pistoliers maybe) but for the last fight I use usually:

- Grudgebringer Cavalry
- Cannon
- Mortar
- Bright Mage
- x-Bows
- Elves Archers
- Flaggelants
- Ogres
- Steam tank
- Ragnar (or Knights of the Realms)

well, maybe it's easier to indicate which unit DIDNTu like in the campaing? i mean, there is about 15-16 units at all :-)

as for the topic, hint: look at my avatar

(I always tried to promote all non-ranged units in 1st turn, except grudgebringer cavalry)

-Grudgebringer infantry. (its probably hard to promote, but they are pretty cool even on 2lvl with good items)
-Grudgebringer cavalry.
-Great swords.
-Mortar.
-Ice wizzard.
-Cannon.
-Steam tank.
-Glade guards.
-Flagellants.
-Helmgart bowmen. (yes, they are temporary, but i really liked them)

sipax if u want to level a certain unit make them charge the flank or back of an already engaged enemy unit,this will make for few deaths and many kills :)

top 5 liked

-flagelants
-greatswords
-grudgebringerinfantry
-canons
-treeman

top 5 hated

-pistoliers
-icemage
-dwarfs
-elvearchers
-mortar

loved:

flags
ogres
elven archers
pistoliers
bright wizard
mortar
grudgebringer cav
xbows
dwarves

hated

helmgart bowmen
elven spearmen(u get them for a map far into the campaign but they r lvl1 so they are completely useless compared to ur other regiments or the enemy)
steamtank(great unit but so slow it annoys the s out of me)
outlaw infantry(same as spearmen,they are lvl 1 and therefor look weak compared to ur other regiments)

i actually hate grud infantry cause when played campaing i used them so rarely and they usuelly were like 2 lvl in the end.

btw is it just me or do the imperial swordman and dwarves just really suck?

:o i think its just u,cause the imperial greatswords are the strongest human infantry,and the dwarves tho way to slow to succesfully charge an enemy regment of archers they are way stronger then any of the other empire infantry available and if u go on the defence they are one the most valuable regiments around

no i think the alave... em flagelants are the strongest human infantry  ;D

My grudgeinfantry allways reach lvl 3.

Im not sure about dwarves, but great swords can inflict much damage to the enemy. It can be useful sometimes...
Remember: they are the only infantry which has 2H weapon. (or im wrong...)

indeed malus i was only thinking about swordsmen,greatswords and halbrediers,but flags are way stronger(as long as they dont get shot at)

Hello

Love Bright Mage/Pistoliers (Hit 'n Run <3 ) /Mortar/Crossbowmen ;D

Hate : Ice mage/Archers (elven or humans)/slow units (Tank, dwarves... huh, i don't really hate dwarves, but they just are able to guard some artillery unit).

Ogres are very good too, fast 'n furious! ;D

Hmm, I take:

Grudgebringer Kav
Grudgebringer Inf
Grudgebringer Crossb
Grudgebringer Cannon
Mortar
Elve Bowman
Flagellants
Fire Mage
Bigswords(or two-hand-swords?)
Ragnar

I really lofed my ogres, I think I used them in very battle. They are very maneuverable and cheap to rebuy, Wich is G swordsman's weakest point. I also liked ragnar and of course the ever standing flaggelants.

Oh God, I loved the pistoliers. Only thing I disliked was because I got them so LATE.

They're such a cool unit.


And I wish there were "Grudgebringer Handgunners" in the game and particularly the campaign instead of the Cannon which sucks. :P

My cannon was destroyed in the latter part of the Campaign and while I continued without them, I noticed that I was better off without it anyway.  :)

I think I used the cannon momst of the battles, it is the siege engeni that shoots the furtest.

What you all got against the cannon?^^

They need line of sight and it cant move is it's main disadvantage.

Hmm... Usually I stay near my cannon with may army.

yeah but if the enemey wave isn't coming your cav has got to move forward and sometimes theres a hill or a forest and a mortar can shoot over it and a cannon can't.

Flagellants are best from flank of back atack. They have very strong atack, but weak defence.
Elven archers are not bad.. in SOTHR they were avensome (firing arrows speed was 3 times faster). Single regiment have no chance to engage melee atack on them

With exception to the Flagellants (Who are my utmost favourite unit) the rest are in no particular order.

Flagellants:
Small little regiment but their attacks are devastating - Nothing more satisfying than seeing a mini group of unarmored lunatics spinning their flails over their heads and making corpses fly all over the place. They're often my prime choice for Shield of Ptolos because (despite being cheap to replace) you do not want them to sustain too many losses, especially not from artillery or archers (probably their weakest issue). The fact that they don't even know fear is a huge plus but also sometimes a bit of a curse seeing as you can never manually flee them from a battle that they may eventually end up losing.

Ontop of that, I think their leader is one of the coolest going - Can't say no to a grey-skinned, bald, cut up lunatic to inspire his equally insane troops.

Ogres:
Fast, mobile, hard hitting unit - They can take quite a beating and the Orc voices are always hilarious to listen to (Fun fact, they had a slowed down 'Human' voice in the PSX version much like the Treeman does, which really sucked). They inspire fear (Big bonus to any unit) and overall they are a nice little powerhouse.

Mortar:
The reasons are obvious - This unit will form a hefty percentage of kills on every map beit single or multiplayer.

Soft Spot for Monsters:
As said, I've a soft-spot for the creatures and monsters of WHDO, especially lone ones. They are tricky to use as they are often singular units and with a bit of luck you can lose them before they do any form of damage though when used right they can be absolutely delicious in combat. Spiders, Scorpions, Trolls, Treeman (Spiders moreso than Scorpions because there is little difference except Spiders have 360oDegree vision which is a huge bonus) and Trolls are always fun with regeneration.

Elven Archers:
I hate to admit it because I love Willem Fletchers Crossbowmen, but that firing rate and range is just ridiculously superior to Grudgebringer Crossbowmen and it's often sad when I feel it's better to replace L2/3 Crossbows with a 1/2 Elven Archers for the tactical advantage they give. These things eat up infantry at medium/close range and have proven to be quite effective in melee at certain times thanks to their speed. Give me them over Elven Infantry any day of the week.

Wraiths:
Literally the coolest looking Undead and ethereal terror inducing bastards to boot. No magic weapons? Thats a shame - Say goodbye to your unit, then!

Brightmage:
Absolutely devastating and home to one of my utmost favourite spells in any game, the screaming/burning skull - This spell alone has given me so much fun and there's nothing nicer than watching screaming enemies run away on fire until they burn to a cinder.

Orc Big'Uns:
The most kick-arse infantry of the greenskins - Mean, Green, Fighting Machines.

UNITS I HATE!

Steamtank:
I loathe this unit - It's innacurate, slow and more of a burden than a help. The only time I find use for it is when I use it to block/defend a preferred unit by putting it in the way of incoming enemies so they cannot charge. Yes I know it can run over the Dread King but that just spoils the fun and requires a stupidly long wait - I never had to do this before and I don't intend to start. The Emporer can keep this bucket of bolts.

Zombies & Ghouls:
Absolutely useless. Undead that know fear? Inconcievable.

Knights of the Realm:
Bunch of pansies - I never looked at their stats but I always found it amusing when you go through the trouble of getting them and they happen to be a 2-Skull Regiment wereas Morgan, Sven, Ragnar and any other Cavalry start as 3-Skull. I always find they typically flee quite a lot.

Goblins with Fanatics:
In Singleplayer I can understand it when they are enemies as it has that 'Oh no!' factor when they mow into your units, but some people seem to think it's funny giving the player Goblin Regiments with Fanatics and 9/10 times they just end up killing half of my own army, it's stupid. Ontop of that, Goblins are absolutely useless fighters and cowardly. Even the archers have stupidly low range making them so hateable.





I could go on all day about each regiment but that'll do for now.
NOTE: All of the above is based on personal preference not tactical knowledge.

ghouls are amazing units if they in corwd (3 regiments+) and have a chance to charge first.

goblins and fanatics are superior vs overcrowded eenemy armies, if they spam infantry. you have to use wise for sure, like only 2-3 head regiments, not everything in army.

hovewer they suck vs cavalry army/ or army with lots of mosnters.

p.s. wraiths could lose to an enemy even if he doesnt have magic weapon/magic. they can fail leadership check and just flee. classic example if you put them vs biguns + banner of defiance :(
also they route intantly if charged from the rear

Oooo! I can't believe I failed to see this topic before!

Well, my favourite unit of the game is--quite unlike RopeDrink--the Steam Tank! The wonderful lumbering inaccurate crazy assortment of wood- and metal armour spouting wild paint jobs, running an utterly unreliable steam engine, that can roll over enemy regiments, and even has a mobile cannon! How can anyone NOT love this doom-inspiring piece of madness? The only way to improve on it would it it had a dwarf from Myth sitting on top of it throwing Molotov Cocktails!

Steam Tank shoot recharges faster than other "normal" cannons.

"Walking Tank + Less accuracy": is better because you can make more cassualties >>> When 2 melee regiments are engaged, shoot the enemy from the back at short-middle range, and they will take serious damage (and surely flee).




My favourite Regiment: Outlaw Infantry.
My cousin, brother and I have many memories about these guys, leaded by the brave one-eyed Jurgen Muntz.
-We are now 23/24! Oh nooo! Lets flee from battle!  Good times...

-loved ones-

1- grudgebringer's cav.
2- grail knights
3- elf archers
4- bright wizard
5- helmgart bowmen
6- flagellants
7- ımperial mortar
8- mercenary ogres
9- knight's of the wolves
10- outlaw ınfantry

First, this is the holy truth:  8)


top 5 liked
-flagellants
-fire wizard (or bright)
-elven archers
-pistoliers
-ogres

top 5 hated
-tank (very slow, short range, no items)
-dwarfs (too late in the game)
-greatswords (because of flagellants and grudgebringer's infantry they have no place in battle)
-ice mage (no teleport and too late in the game)
-mortar (I don't hated but in the last 3 missions is quite useless)

the 5 must
-grudgebringer's cavalry (actually is the only one which must be always at the battlefield)
-grudgebringer's infantry (if you are smart is the only infantry that you can train up to lvl 3)
-grudgebringer's crossbows (unless you want many losses at the beginning, they are must)
-ragnar's calvary (is your second cavalry and if you don't get them you won't get staff of osiris)
-grudgebringer's cannon (makes the last mission a piece of cake, there are some missions that it must be replace with mortar or icemage)

Nice selection!

:)

mortar useless  ??? ???

just shoot in front of moving regiments - its only AI :D

Well he said its useless in the last missions.
I agree that its a bit useless in the black pyramide mission because mummies are nearly immune to artillery.

But its good to shredder skeletons/ghouls :D

Well, never even played last mission without mortar xD

I like bright wizard with flamestorm spell in some first missions. Undead archers are burning well.

I find it unfortunate that there are no goblin regiments in the campaign (at least, I reached the Grail so far and got stuck there, too many mummies to stay afloat). I've played a few games against my brother the last few days, and I find using a goblin regiment, backed up by a mage and possibly a Horn if I can afford it, the goblins attack, then I just start firing beams through my own, cheap and expendable units to deal good damage against the heavy big guys they attack. Add in a few harder hitting regiments for an attack, and you can soften up your targets (goblin archers, fire a round, force attack, fire your beams through them, attack with heavier regiment while fleeing the archers, use horn, archers go lob at something else).

But, I think my favourites are:
Ogres, 3 in a group, cheap to replace, if you soften the enemy up they have a high chance of all 3 surviving and killing/routing the enemy.

Orc archers, who doesn't like a group that can soften up a regiment, then attack it as if it were a melee infantry unit? When using humans or undead, I always have at least one regiment ready at the side for a charge to prevent my archers getting in a melee, but with orcs I just charge the archers, then have the other regiments attack it from the side/behind or engage a different regiment altogether.

Orc/goblin shaman, I actually like the idea of a goblin shaman more. A weak, tiny little creature with devastating attacks? I'm all for it! I especially like the support role it can play, with 'ere we go' I could easily have any melee regiment defeat 2 entire, unscathed skeleton regiments and still have more then half of the guys left, if I took my time softening them up I sometimes lost no more then two guys to two whole regiments. Orcs are more about melee, and I use them as such.
I do dislike the 'Da Crunch' spell, sometimes it's effective as hell, but at one point I threw down 6 Da Crunches squarely on 4 enemy regiments (in melee combat with my fith), and I barely killed 5 guys with it, even though my brother claimed there were no anti-magic items/spells at work at that point in the game, and none were visible.

Bright mage, seriously, that flaming head it TOO GOOD. Every unit you get under that shrieking monstrosity is almost guaranteed dead, making even the best regiments flee. If necessary, I just put my mage in the way of cavalery, ram one of these heads in it, two if I get the time, then just teleport away. If I don't just teleport behind/at the flank of an enemy regiment and burn an entire row+all suckers that move into it's path away. If it were up to me, teleport would get a maximum range and the flaming  head would get a max killcount.

Trolls, there is something about a massive towering unit that, with a little assistance, can beat an entire regiment, then just heal up to full again and attack the next, all the while able to block some magic attacks.

I like the wood elf archers, bright wizard and flagellants!

Having played DO for so many years on both PSX and PC - Flagellants where always my favourite from start to finish.

The way Eusebio looks (creepy insomniac), the in-game regiment having wacky Einstein hair, the fact they are immune to fear... Nevermind how they swing their flails over their heads like complete psychotic lunatics in battle... As soon as I got them, they instantly became my favourite and have remained my favourite ever since.

I always grew fond of chucking the anti-arrow shield on them and having them as my primary rush-first-ask-questions-later unit, especially if I can compliment their target with my second favourite unit, the Ogres.

They were my death-squad - And Morgan would be used to keep the speedy hard-hitters at bay while those two regiments smashed everything that my Mortar, Cannon, and Elven archers didn't kill first.

I do like FireWizard but he's pretty much the OP staple-point of the human army. Any time he has flaming skull in his spell-book, I laugh along with it - Just a nasty, NASTY spell.

Humans:
Flagellants > Ogres > Grungebringer Cavalry > Elven Archers and/or GB Crossbows > Mortar & Cannon > GB Infantry for general meat-shielding.
Then whatever other units I feel like.

Greenskins:
Troll > Spider > Boar Boyz > Big Uns > Shaman > Orc Boyz > Archers.
Anything that isn't Goblins with fanatics... Those things always... ALWAYS... Do more damage to me than they do the enemy, no matter how far away they are from the team.

Undead:
Skull Launcher > Vampire > BGrail Knights > Anything else.
I avoid playing them when I can - Undead are ridiculous in SP as well as MP.

Top 5:
Flag > Ogres > Troll > FSLauncher > Boar Boyz

-Grundgebringer Infantry
-Helmegart bowmen
-Grail Knights
-Knights of the Realm
-Outlaw infantry (Love the appearance of them)

Those were my favourite regiments back when playing on PSX years ago, for now I will add:

-Mortar (Blighted towers?, no problem, I will aim manually and destroy all the orcs charging forward!)
-Ogres (Love when they carry that banner that launches rays to the enemy and the stormsword or hellfire sword, they can deal with entire regiments all alone with that, and being just 3 ogres makes those items really effective)

The bretonian knights made me chose Bretonnia as my army in Warhammer Fantasy Battles (:

Ever since I got WH:DO back in the PSX days, I fell instantly in love with the Ogres & Flagellants. Eusebio looked completely whacked, and then when the battle began, all I could see where seven chaps with massive afros, wielding flails like complete lunatics - what's not to like?

"Mah names Urbald Rotgut..."
"...That's your problem."

Always loved having my Ogres for hit'n'run (or more specifically, hit and trample them as they flee in fear). Definitely my top-2 for more than just their in-game prowess. Aside from those two (guaranteed in every singleplayer battle possible), I'll always favour the Mortar over Cannon - followed by the Elven Archers. They're completely ridiculous and almost always replace my good ole CBowmen in the end. Outside of those, it's got to be good ole Morgan and his trusty Sergeant, trailed behind by the practically mandatory Bright Wizard.

People have different favorite units, but noone likes Ice-Wizard much. I kinda like him but you have to level him up first (best way is to ensnare with high level bright wizard and equip wrathbanner on ice-wizzard, and just let him kill off units with the wrathbanner), when he is high level i quite like him.

Best combo is the Bright Wizard, and Ice Wizard in combination with crossbowmen and elf archers (and the shield of ptolos on elf) and banner of arcane warding, perhaps dragonhelm if you are going against screaming skulls on crossbowmen.

High level on both wizards (and of course jetwand and book on Bright Wizzard) and banner of wrath on Ice Wizzard. Spam ice-shield and Dispel on Crossbowmen and then protect Brightwizz with his own dispel, and if enemy is close use Wrath and fire-snare. Thus both arrow-regimens are immune to both magic and arrows, and can easily wipe out other arrow regimens and if enemy is close with ensnare/screamingscull/wrathbanner put up a fierce challange.

Burnhart had 15k gold after Dread king was defeated using this method lol.