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[Flak]

yes thats about it, you also do remove the chance of a gang of trolls or rebels will spawn in the neutral land and attack you.
If we ever get anyone to be the renegade

[bembelimen]

UN1 moves from 1-9-C to defend 2-10-C

You know, that we are allied and it's not possible to fight against me? so if I will win against Nitrox our armies act like every allied armies, which meet on a field?

If I understand the rules correctly, you have to declare war before we can fight, so nothing should happen!







Cholio would attack alavet...

[Flak]

Almost correct, the only way to do this is to sneak attack and commence a dirty war, where no ROW applies.

[bembelimen]

Mhh I thought sneak attack are not allowed anymore, cause this would make an alliance useless, but anyways, you don't attack me Or do you attack me after the battle against Nitrox and I have to do a triple defence?

[Flak]

i more or less removed all the initial diplomacy rules and let it be up to the players as they didnt work in the 1st game

I am defending the territory if you defeat Nitrox my army will defend in a double defense vs a triple attack

[bembelimen]

Sneak attack also didnt have the desired effect, so also disgarded.

I understand it that way, that no sneak attack exists in any way, so you have to declare war first, before you can attack. If sneak attack still exists, I think you have to attack me, not defence against me.

So let say the turn is as you want (=you can attack me), so if I will defeat Nitrox, you can attack me with a Sneak attack and you're a rough nation (if sneak attack still exists), you cannot make an alliance with any player and you can be attacked from every player... am I correct?

Otherwise we have a problem, cause if I win against Nitrox, who owned this land before I fight you? It cannot be Nitrox, cause he is defeated, and it cannot be you, cause I havn't fight you.

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[Flak]

i see the problem with lacking rules in this instance, ill need to think of something proper.

But in this case there is one more issue,
I signed an alliance with Ghabry, Bembe and Nitrox in turn 1.
I never canceled the alliance with nitrox and i never picked sides in your war with nitrox, until now.
I have 3 allies at war with eachother, nitrox is not the aggressor and i choose to back him up instead of my 2 other allies.
So really i am not sneak attacking you, im defending an ally vs another ally, making 1 ally an enemy in the process 

[bembelimen]

nitrox is not the aggressor

uh? If I remember correctly, then I moved to the UU and Nitrox attacked me...

So really i am not sneak attacking you, im defending an ally vs another ally, making 1 ally an enemy in the process  

If you stay on the field without fighting, then you make no sneak attack, but if you attack me, you definitely attack, sry Flak, but this is, if you fight, 100% a sneak attack. Declare war and attack next turn or make a illegal sneak attack and lose every alliance...you cannot interpret the rules in a way it fits best for you...

And btw. if I think about it, due the fact, you make a sneak attack, you lose alliance with Nitrox, so you will attack him automatical and the winner have to fight against me!

Edit: I saw some post above:

Almost correct, the only way to do this is to sneak attack and commence a dirty war, where no ROW applies.

[Flak]

i have no real option anyway, i fear having to fight alone later if i dont make a move this turn and a retreat after my intentions are out would just be plane silly

Weather my army gets to fight you i have made my move and we are at war regardless

[Mikademus]

I enjoy seeing how this conquest unfolds! The map is very interesting, and it looks more like a real war this time!

[alavet]

wtf. about rogue nation: being a rogue nation doesnt mean that u should declare war to everyone. its jsut mean that everyone can attack you without declare war or soemthing and they also can hit n run you and kill routing regiments. but its not an obligation.

at least as far as i understand it.

p.s. i'm travelling in Russia so have access to web but not to the game itself

[Ghabry]

I'm bit tired today so I would have disadvantages in the fights...
I will be available tomorrow for the battles, so lurk in hamachi pls .

[alavet]

ok im there & can perform some battle tonight or tomorrow.

[Flak]

Good to have you back

things have been a bit slow so you have only missed 1 turn

This is your battle this turn: 3-14-B EA2 vs Gob3 (host) at Great Forrest (vs Ghabry)

[Nitrox]

I will play today with Bembi, i was unable to play because i was in hospital