[Warhammer Dark Omen Forum]

Warhammer Dark Omen Forum

[I.]

There are 2 problems that current rules can not solve:

    I. Imagine we have an archer regiment vs mummies regiment - who is the winner? On the one hand, mummies will definitely crumble the archers into dust in melee. On the other hand, mummies are slow and it is feasible for archers to hit n run and eventually shoot mummies down.

    II. Imagine we have 2 armies with artillery and without any hit n run capable regiments. No one is likely to attack since  the attacker wont be able to use his artillery.

I suggest defining the attacker and the defender sides before the battle. I think the best way to do this is to give the attacker a limited amount of time to defeat his opponent, and if he fails we consider him defeated. It would solve both cases. The only problem is that the defender would be in a better situation, however we could give the attacker some bonuses to make both sides equal.

I will appreciate any suggestions and ideas :

Vampire - 6 points
If undeads need a mage - they can buy a necromancer. If they need the best hit'n run unit in DO - they should pay for this

And what if there are several regiments of this kind? or a cavalry unit, deliberately avoiding engagement? or maybe some mummies in addition to vampire? It would be more then 1 regiment then...

Night Goblin Archers	Night Goblin Archers	Night Goblin Archers	Gigantic Spider	Gigantic Spider	Gigantic Spider	Giant Scorpion	Giant Scorpion	Giant Scorpion	Night Goblin Shaman

I pwned some elves twice or thrice with this army... I think too many beasts are allowed for goblins - they are cheap and its possible to field plenty of them.

I never played Mark of Chaos (absence of friendly fire is just ridiculous), but what's surprising about its Dark Omenish looks?

elven bowmen have no armor, dont forget about this

I just thought that cancelling this rule and setting vampire to 6 or more points could be quite a good way to balance mummies...

Banner of defiance -> 2-3 pts
It seems to me that WarpGhost is right saying it's the banner of defiance which makes mummies the best melee unit in the game. Besides, I consider it an incredibly efficient item on any army unless it features unbreakable units or lacks in numbers greatly. So changing banner's price, which would affect all the factions, seems a better idea to me then increasing mummies' cost and thus undermining only Undead.

Grudgebringer Infantry	Imperial Greatswords	Countess' Guard	Wood Elf Archers	Wood Elf Glade Guards	Dwarf Warriors	Bright Wizard

A very versatile armybuild ^^

Night Goblin Shaman	Orc Boar Boyz	Orc Boar Boyz	Orc Boyz	Orc Boyz	Orc Big'uns	Night Goblin Archers	Night Goblin Archers	Orc Big'uns

Rush-style good against artillery

[0 points]

-2 points for treeman

Guess it would be ok, if Empire didnt have so powerful and cheap units such as flagellants. Besides, there are many powerful items...
However 3 points is really too much for him imho. I checked the DOST2002, and it suggests providing a considerable bonus if a player buys treeman.
So I think we should set him to 0 points.

Mummy	Ghoul	Ghoul	Skeleton Warriors	Skeleton Warriors	Zombies	Zombies	Vampire

I think its almost impossible to defeat this army without artillery 

Vampire - 4 points

He exceeds all other mages not only in toughness but also in speed(ms of 6, afaik one of the fastest regiments), which makes him almost invulnerable to archers. Having the melee abilities of his, makes him  capable of killing other mages with ease, which becomes really simple if he has the teleport spell. Besides, in the last Dost2002 rules (http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/DO/Rules/DOST2002) 1st lvl vampire costs as much as 3rd lvl necromancer - so I think he is currently underpriced. 

Have some other suggestions on Und units costs, hope to post them later 

Hope I am not too late  :