Warhammer Dark Omen Forum

Hello

I'm currently working on the Savegame Header. But it's difficult to find out which integer values define which ingame decision with only one set of savegames ;).

I would be interested in all of your savegames (zip them and upload them as an attachment). Really all not only the last one!

And please add a small summary that tells me about all important ingame decisions (just copy it and add a (x) if this applies to the savegame set):
( ) Protected Bogenhafen
( ) Helped Azkuz
( ) Took Mortar
( ) Won against Carstein
( ) Attacked Goblin Camp
( ) Helped Ragnar
( ) Won against Nagash
( ) Walked to Loren
( ) Helped Treemen
( ) Fought against Greenskins in Vingtienne
( ) Won against Black Grail
( ) Dread King Beaten Savegame included

(the last point means if you have saved the game after beating the final mission)

The typical savegames will have something like:
(x) Protected Bogenhafen
(x) Helped Azkuz
(x) Took Mortar
(x) Won against Carstein
(x) Attacked Goblin Camp
(x) Helped Ragnar
(x) Won against Nagash
(x) Walked to Loren
(x) Helped Treemen
( ) Fought against Greenskins in Vingtienne
(x) Won against Black Grail
(x) Dread King Beaten Savegame included

but I'm interested in other ones of course too ;)

And it doesnt matter if the saves belong to Custom Campaigns like Goblin Campaign upload them too.

Nobody wants to help? :(

We'd play the Singleplayer Campain for the 173th time...  ;)

Gonna send you tommorow.

OK, here it is! I hope no one's missing...

(X) Protected Bogenhafen
( ) Helped Azkuz
(X) Took Mortar
( ) Won against Carstein
( ) Attacked Goblin Camp
( ) Helped Ragnar
( ) Won against Nagash
( ) Walked to Loren
( ) Helped Treemen
(X) Fought against Greenskins in Vingtienne
( ) Won against Black Grail
( ) Dread King Beaten Savegame included

( ) Protected Bogenhafen
( ) Helped Azkuz
(x) Took Mortar
( ) Won against Carstein
( ) Attacked Goblin Camp
( ) Helped Ragnar
( ) Won against Nagash
( ) Walked to Loren
( ) Helped Treemen
( ) Fought against Greenskins in Vingtienne
( ) Won against Black Grail
(x) Dread King Beaten Savegame included

Dunno if you  still want these, I took the worst options available (besides getting the motar), i suspect you'll already have the easy/best route thou.

Oh have completly forgotten about this...

Thx hari8 und Darkmancer. :)

It was interesting hearing a lot of dialog I've not heard before.  Think Mythas is a whiney git?  try losing vs carstien, hand & black gail, for a super whinge :)

The best lost dialog is imo when you lose against the Hand of Nagash:

Matthias: "Another failure, the hand of nagash is unharmed and beyond our reach. Can't you do anything right ?"
Morgan Bernhardt: "I can chop off a witch hunters head and have my sword back in its scabbard within a single second."

But I prefer the German version:
Morgan Bernhardt: "Ich kann in einer einzigen Sekunde den Kopf eines Hexenjägers abschlagen und mein Schwert wieder in die Scheide führen."

ohh wtfff. i remembered that you can lose the battle and still continiue, but that happens for me only once or 2... is there is lots of mission when you can survive with your main warrior and process futher? would be very funny to try to pass all missions that way!!

Its funny at te end. Dread King has a "super green jewel" and yells all time "Jewel give me MORE POWER!"

But then its annoying to listen him all magic cycles say that phrase, btw I dont know what the green jewel does.

And you meet Hand of Nagash and BGK at that battle (oops). You start battle, and in the 1st wave of mummies, Hand of Nagash rushes at you.. yes Its lovely hard. Then when you reach center, the BGK move to attack you. And last, the Dread King...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/OrangeBlackJack/wat.jpg (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/OrangeBlackJack/wat.jpg)

I'm 99% sure that it does NOTHING. The only difference is that the Dread King says his text (ok it's not the Juwel but a "circle" defined in the BTB-File that causes saying it if the dread king stands on it (and in the non-Juwel-Mission this circle is out of bounds))

hehehe..

If you lose Carstein Mission, you get a counter at last battle: turning off the sound to shut his mouth.

oh Jeronimo just descrbied me that this not his fantasies but real scenario if you will "lose" nagash / bgk battle.
its pretty intresting and i guess kinda unwinnable scenario at the last mission i guess... i never know these facts.

so is it possible to flee from all battles and still reach the end one? it could be awesome summary fo dialogues to see :D

by the way, what will be the easiste way to pass the mission that way? just to put your main unit, engage, and retreat everytime?

Permanent losing is only possible by using cheats.
Because replacing Bernhardts loses is expensive ;). But should be possible by winning some missions...

in theory that is correct alavet, the show must go on, weather you win or lose

Status Update.
I analyzed the savegames and made good progress.

The findings will be posted in the wiki (ARM-Article (http://wiki.dark-omen.org/do/DO/ARM)) soon.

As a quick summary, a screenshot from a new version of a popular army file editing program:
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6259/unbenanntnfi.png)

Very Cool!

:)

Good analysis! I like the data you've added to the editor! Could you indent the dependent choices, like below?

x A or B
   x  A       x B

*big fat thumbs up!*