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Modifications => Campaigns => Topic started by: Kikk on August 30, 2009, 02:19:16 AM



Title: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Kikk on August 30, 2009, 02:19:16 AM
Greetings.

I recently discovered this website dedicated to DarkOmen. I always liked this game and I still play it now and then. Nice to see the game is still being played and by the looks of it, heavily expanded.

I saw you guys have been making new campaigns for single player. I happen to have three campaign files on my computer which I downloaded years ago (like, in 1998-1999 or so). Since I did not create them myself I can't take credit for anything that's in these campaigns, but of course I can share them with you guys here. =)

All three campaigns just alter the starting units and the new regiments that you will receive as the campaign progresses. One is an elven campaign, another uses orcs and the third one has undead units. No storyline is attached, it's all about playing the original campaign with different factions.

To install:
- Download a campaign file. You can find them at the bottom of this post.
- Go to your darkomen\gamedata\1parm folder
- Make a backup of the file plyr_all.arm, as this file contains the information for which regiments you will receive in the game. The original one has the info for the empire regiments.
- Go to the downloaded campaign file and unzip it to any place you know you can find it back. I like to keep them in the 1parm folder.
- Replace the plyr_all.arm file in your 1parm folder with the file from the downloaded campaign file.
- Starting a new single player campaign now will produce regiments for you of a different faction. =)

If you later decide to play another faction or want the original game back, all you need to do is replace the plyr_all.arm file again.

Enjoy!

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Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: olly on August 30, 2009, 02:35:51 AM
Welcome!

yeah they probably from the Great DOC111 10 year old collection of mods  by Mikademus, Smurf and others.

http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/1.-modding-tools/4.-miscellaneous-tools/index.html (http://en.dark-omen.org/downloads/1.-modding-tools/4.-miscellaneous-tools/index.html)


:)



Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Kikk on August 30, 2009, 02:50:28 AM
Yep, its them indeed. The doc111 file has the undead.txt file which I also have. Thanks for notifying me of that file, too. Had not found it yet.

Ah well. Perhaps people can find them more easy now, since they are now posted at the campaigns section on the forum. =)



Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: bembelimen on August 30, 2009, 02:21:51 PM
Ah well. Perhaps people can find them more easy now, since they are now posted at the campaigns section on the forum. =)

Since a year I plan to disassemble the doc111 files, but always something unexpected intervene...


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: sipax on September 02, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
I had theese campaigns once. The undead camp is too easy (black grail+skab sword in the begin is very cool).
The elven campaign is had only 4 units changed as i remember: Core infantry (elf spearman), Cavalry (outlaw pistoliers sprite),
Archers (ye- true elven archers in the begining), Ballista (orc ballista with Semi-elf crew).

<- Just background information for those, who want to play them.


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 19, 2009, 08:59:54 PM
Hi everybody,

I too recently discovered this site - very recently actually, a few hours ago - and immediately grabbed the chance to replay the only RTS game I ever truly liked. Many thanks also to the thread starter for the three alternative "campaigns". I do however remember a very old undead army file which gave you a vampire lord right at the start, able to cast undead spells. I guess it was way overpowered, alas I couldn't find time back then to play it through and now I can't find the file anymore. Does anybody else remember it? It's not the undead army file downloadable from here, which gives you ghouls, skeleton archers, a skull thrower and the black grail.

And another thing while I am at it. It's probably the wrong forum, but is there any mod that allows you to take the treeman to the final battle, yo make him thus a "staying" unit from when he appears (close to the end) to the black pyramid, or maybe even one where you get him from the start?


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: sipax on October 20, 2009, 11:11:32 AM
Hello, Lord Ludwig. Its good to see new member.
About campaign- it isnt too hard to change players reqiments (replacing enemy reqiments is a bit harder), so if you wanna vampire from 1st mission - its easy (you can make it by yourself actually).


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: sipax on October 20, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
And yes, its easy to make treeman permament reqiment. (he can replace any reqiment in fact)


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Malus on October 20, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
If you want the treeman stays to your army you have two ways:
1.(easy) replace an other permanent unit with the treeman, e.g. the icemage, greatswords (not units like carlson, countess)
Use the WH32Edit tool from this page
2.(hard) change all BTB-files from the missions and make the treeman available-> every map BTBfile says which units(id) can fight at the map. e.g. at 1 mission they are 1,2,3,4
For the treeman these are only the missionfiles after the treemanmission.
The problem! After mission "treeman" the treeman is set to "inactive", so you have to edit the savefile after this mission.
Use the Wh32Edit tool and the BTB-viewer from this page.

I think you havn´t any experience with these tools so i can change the starting armyfile for you and upload this at the forum. Pls let me know which unit you want to change to the treeman. I prefer the greatswords or the dwarfs  ;D
Sorry fans, but who use the dwarfs at the missions? They just stay arround with 0 kills and they are to slow to follow a (fleeing unit!)


greetings malus


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 20, 2009, 10:06:15 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome.

Malus, I will try the editor when I find the time, but if meanwhile you're willing to adapt a file for me that would be very kind. If it is not too time-consuming, come to think about it, there are some more units you get only in the end I would like to get earlier... Can you swap them also with some of the 4 you start with? Could you, say, make a file where at the start I get a vampire lord (or if that's not possible the ice mage) instead of the cannon, the pistoliers instead of the infantry, the elven bowmen instead of the crossbows? All that PLUS the treeman in place of the greatswords? If it takes too much time or is complicated obviously only the treeman-greatswords exchange would be fine.

I know this will probably make the campaign too easy, but when the game came out I completed the game several time, so I'm more looking for alternative things than for challenge here. And maybe through the editor also the challenge level can be raised making the enemy stronger or more numerous, right?


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: bembelimen on October 20, 2009, 10:16:47 PM
Beside that, did you try the sticky campaigns (http://forum.dark-omen.org/campaigns-b36.0/)?


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Malus on October 20, 2009, 10:46:01 PM
There is it!


Treeman>Greatsword
Pistoliers>GrudInfantry
Elves>Crossbows
Vampire>Canon

Just overwrite the "unliked units", you get 2 treeman at the treemanmission, 2 elves if your chose the woodway and so on.

Download the file behind the spoiler.
Unzip the file
Copy the armyfile PLYR_ALL from the special folder into your blabla\Programs\Dark Omen\GameData\1PARM folder


have fun  ;D


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 21, 2009, 08:13:16 AM
Thanks Malus, I'll give it a try later today if I find the time (busy day).

To bembelimen: no, not yet. I will try the orc and the dwarven campaign, however from skimming summarily through those thread I got the (erroneous?) impression they where still in an experimental status. I read something like only one battle being ready, but maybe that referred to an earlier stadium of mod development. Anyway, can they be as easily installed and uninstalled as with the simple substitution of a file?


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: tovertrut on October 21, 2009, 09:04:55 AM
malus under ur spoiler there are 3files,wich one do i download?


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Malus on October 21, 2009, 05:23:11 PM
Oh yes, the special folder ofcourse  ;D


now it should work


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 25, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
Hi folks, I hope you're willing to help me out here.

As I said, in the weekend I was going to try out the "special army" file kindly made for me, as well as the goblin and dwarf campaign. At first all went very well. I played through the whole campaign yesterday with the special army in "fast mode" (without taking any sidequests). I was wondering if I could defeat the dread king with a non-optimal experience, and of course I wasn't. Pistoliers and elven archers were, as logical, impressive in the first half of the game - the vampire was a bit disappointing, I remember the undead army file of several years ago had the vampire able to summon zombies, while this one never got that spell due to low xp I suppose - but in the end, not having most of the items and with not enough experience I was summarily slaughtered at the black pyramid. Till there all well, great fun to replay the game after years, and I was even thinking about using the win32 editor to try building my own campaign.

Then however, instead of going to sleep, I decided to have a quick peek at the start of the goblin and dwarven campaign, and there things went wrong. Although I had stored the original game data in a separate folder, I must have been a little sleepy and got it overwritten at some point. So this morning I thought I could solve things making a second install on my separate second hard disk, but this only got things worse. I soon found out for some reason the game was always reading the army files form the second installation instead of from the first. As a result I couldn't get it to run the mods anymore. So I uninstalled both of them - manually, because going through uninstallshield did not work. However, when I try to install a fresh version now I always get the message that dark omen is already installed. I presume there must be lines of it left in the registry, and that's a bit risky for me to go deleting things...

So what can I do to solve this, to get a new functional install to tinker with without risking to screw up everything? Many thanks to those kind, patient and computer savvy enough to help.


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Wkurwiony on October 25, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
Hi folks, I hope you're willing to help me out here.

As I said, in the weekend I was going to try out the "special army" file kindly made for me, as well as the goblin and dwarf campaign. At first all went very well. I played through the whole campaign yesterday with the special army in "fast mode" (without taking any sidequests). I was wondering if I could defeat the dread king with a non-optimal experience, and of course I wasn't. Pistoliers and elven archers were, as logical, impressive in the first half of the game - the vampire was a bit disappointing, I remember the undead army file of several years ago had the vampire able to summon zombies, while this one never got that spell due to low xp I suppose - but in the end, not having most of the items and with not enough experience I was summarily slaughtered at the black pyramid. Till there all well, great fun to replay the game after years, and I was even thinking about using the win32 editor to try building my own campaign.

Then however, instead of going to sleep, I decided to have a quick peek at the start of the goblin and dwarven campaign, and there things went wrong. Although I had stored the original game data in a separate folder, I must have been a little sleepy and got it overwritten at some point. So this morning I thought I could solve things making a second install on my separate second hard disk, but this only got things worse. I soon found out for some reason the game was always reading the army files form the second installation instead of from the first. As a result I couldn't get it to run the mods anymore. So I uninstalled both of them - manually, because going through uninstallshield did not work. However, when I try to install a fresh version now I always get the message that dark omen is already installed. I presume there must be lines of it left in the registry, and that's a bit risky for me to go deleting things...

So what can I do to solve this, to get a new functional install to tinker with without risking to screw up everything? Many thanks to those kind, patient and computer savvy enough to help.

i think you should download program like "ccleaner", clean your registry with it, and try install it again


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 25, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't seem to work. I had already tried the same with jv16, now I tried with ccleaner which indeed found some more registry keys it deemed useless (I found out it also deleted the cookie allowing me to log in here automatically), but after deleting them I still get the message that an install of dark omen is already present. 


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: olor on October 25, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
Try Regedit?

Start > Run > Regedit > HKEY LOCAL MACHINE > SOFTWARE > ELECTRONIC ARTS and delete Dark Omen


Title: Re: 3 Campaigns - Elf, Orc and Undead
Post by: Lord Ludwig on October 25, 2009, 05:38:13 PM
That worked, Olor. Many thanks.