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5000/15

[Arkturus]

U really wanna set vamp to 5 or 6 points?

i dont like the image that i pay 6 Points for one unit what have to make suicide if the other regiments are down..

for 6 Points u could buy 3 Regiments of Skeletons or maybe 2 with Arkan Banner or Ptoleos Shild.
What brings a Wizzard what cost more than 33% or the whole army if he have to make suicide at the end?

4 Points i think are more than enough.

[bembelimen]

• 2009-05-20 Canon point value was decreased to 2/3/3.
• 2009-05-20 Bolt Thrower point value was decreased to 1/1/0.
• 2009-05-20 Vampire point value was increased to 4/5/6.
• 2009-05-20 Skeleton Horsemen point value was decreased to 3/2/2.
• 2009-05-20 Mercenary Cavalry  point value was decreased to 3/2/3.
• 2009-05-20 Knights of the Realm  point value was decreased to 3/2/3.
• 2009-05-20 Mummies  point value was changed to 7/4/4.

[alavet]

-elves?
-ghouls?
-wraights?
-treeman?

will be changed or we forget about it

[bembelimen]

There was no final result, so I didn't change them.

[Crusoe]

Items

Name                  1st  2nd  3rd 
Strength Potion
Enchanted Shield
Dragon Helm          1     0    1 


so..... WE CAN USE MORE THAN 1 OF THESE ITEMS ON 5K15 BATTLES??

(yes its possible, just editing your army replacing the experienced one for a new lvl 1 regiment/s)

[alavet]

no its meant that 1st item from the list will be for 1 pts and second from the lsit for free (no double items).

[bembelimen]

• 2009-05-21 Elves Archers point value was increased to 5/5/5.

[alavet]

hell yes

btw
Screaming Skull Catapult  Level 1  3  3  4 
should be changed to 2 2 3

absolutely useless regiment, no way it cost 3 for the 1st unit.
i think canon is better (accuracy and rate of fire) but 1 definately not good. 2 points seems ok and little welcome for this unit, cause i actually never met it at the battlefield.

[alavet]

i sugest to change points for troll as following:
2/0
cause even spider better than troll except magci resistance

http://en.dark-omen.org/troops/greenskins/troll.html
http://en.dark-omen.org/troops/greenskins/gigantic-spider.html

[bembelimen]

Did you check the stats with WH32Edit? (cause fear <=> terror etc.), (perhaps) a 1/2/2 sounds good for me too.

[bembelimen]

ok I think the 5k/15 is nearly finished. Perhaps could Alavet confirm his last suggestions, then I will add them and we'll have a last 5k/15 tourney as great conclusion.

[alavet]

after all kind of experiments and with experience of other oturnaments i think following changes will be good:
1) troll 2/0 fully ok, since it cost like 480 and noone is going to use it anyway ;-) and even troll is better than spider cause he has bigger # of attacks and magic resistance (but less LS) its okay
2) i think staff of osiris should cost like 3. (see http://forum.dark-omen.org/tournaments/tournament-june-t391.0.html;msg2712#msg2712 where staff kills 4 ghouls in a row with oen shot) - its like a moving canon, but more precise (landscape and death of mage compensate it overpowerness)

the rest is fine

[alavet]

p.s. screaming scull to 2/2/3

[Kypper]

Yep, the screaming skull has the shorter range of all ballistic weapons, and the poorer accuracy (but a direct hit is devastating )

[bembelimen]

• 2009-08-10 Screaming Skull Catapult point value was increased to 2/2/3.
• 2009-08-10 Staff of Osiris point value was increased to 3.
• 2009-08-10 Troll point value was decreased to 2/1/1.

I think 2/0/0 is to cheap for a troll (see also the price) can you live with 2/1/1?